Lol... the Magic Voice was the last straw for a type of issue, Tom Brightman brought one in, plugged it in to the C128 and the 128 promptly crashed. They were toggeling the /GAME lines dynamically, every cartridge up until then had been hard jumpered. So we didn't see the /GAME line asserted, tried to jump to the reset vector at $FFFC and THEN they asserted their own ROM/code which not only collided with the internal ROM's but also didn't know how to set up the MMU, etc. Everyone went home thinking that the 128 was cooked. Knowing that the Z80 booted to a completely different address, $0000 to be exact, I called Von Ertwine at home. Von wasn't home but his wife Kathy read me the opcodes needed for the Z80 if it woke up first and we punched them into the eprom burner by hand. Kim Constein modified the board by inserting an inverter on the /RESET lines (Z80 and 6502 already had opposite polarities and were hooked together if I remember right) and son of a bitch if it didn't come up. Where did you get MV proto? -----Original Message----- From: owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de [mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de] On Behalf Of Steve Gray Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:12 PM To: cbm-hackers@musoftware.de Subject: Re: VCF PET Alive! - April 24th to May 2nd I'm torn.. part of me is fascinated by stories like this and part of me is sad to hear this stuff is lost forever... I feel lucky to be able to preserve what little I can, like my enginering/developer prototype CBM-II machine in my collection. I just picked up a prototype Magic Voice that was sitting in a box neglected for years... there must be more of these things around. Steve ----- Original Message ---- > From: Bil Herd <bherd@idsbusiness.com> > To: "cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" <cbm-hackers@musoftware.de> > Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 12:02:20 PM > Subject: RE: VCF PET Alive! - April 24th to May 2nd > > Oh yeah, that was also the last time we saw the "gold" 1 Millionth Vic-20. > Damm thing got paint all over the place from where the spray paint was flaking > off. -----Original Message----- From: > ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de > [mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de] > On Behalf Of Bil Herd Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:00 PM To: > ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de Subject: > RE: VCF PET Alive! - April 24th to May 2nd It was a matter of how much > stuff the lab technicians wanted to pack up, move, unpack and save. I > don't think any of us had a single thought about years down the road, we were > too engrossed in surviving the week. I would love to have some of the chip plots > that used to hang in my office or some of the original schematics that laid > around. -----Original Message----- From: > ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de > [mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de] > On Behalf Of Steve Gray Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:55 AM To: > ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de Subject: > Re: VCF PET Alive! - April 24th to May 2nd I always wonder what happens > to things like this.. I would guess like a company would want to preserve the > "first" product of its kind by putting them in showcases at head office or > something. Seems a shame to loose or just throw out something like > that.... me sad. Steve ----- Original Message > ---- > From: Bil Herd <> href="mailto:bherd@idsbusiness.com">bherd@idsbusiness.com> > To: > "> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" <> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de> > > Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 11:47:53 AM > Subject: RE: VCF PET Alive! - > April 24th to May 2nd > > I last saw it in a pile of stuff headed > for the trash when we moved from MOS/KOP > to West Chester. I don't > believe I ever saw it once we hit > WC. -----Original > Message----- From: > ymailto="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de > > [mailto:> href="mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de] > > On Behalf Of Steve Gray Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:44 AM To: > > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de Subject: > > Re: VCF PET Alive! - April 24th to May 2nd I wonder if anyone knows > what > happened to the original PET prototype that was made with a wood > case and seen > on the cover of Popular Science magazine?... could it > still be alive? > ;-) Steve ----- Original Message > ---- > From: Bil > Herd <> href="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:bherd@idsbusiness.com" > href="mailto:bherd@idsbusiness.com">bherd@idsbusiness.com">> ymailto="mailto:bherd@idsbusiness.com" > href="mailto:bherd@idsbusiness.com">bherd@idsbusiness.com> > > To: > "> href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" <> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de> > > > Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 11:30:37 AM > Subject: RE: VCF PET Alive! > - > April 24th to May 2nd > > I just forwarded to > > Chuck. -----Original Message----- From: > ymailto="mailto:> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de > > > [mailto:> href="mailto:> href="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">owner-cbm-hackers@musoftware.de] > > > On Behalf Of Bill Degnan Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:25 AM To: > > > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de Subject: > > > Re: VCF PET Alive! - April 24th to May 2nd sounds like fun. > I > will > have to come up with something. Ever see this - > TheChuck > Peddle Pet > href="> href="> href="http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf4/commodore/pet-n-peddle.jpg" target=_blank > >http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf4/commodore/pet-n-peddle.jpg" > target=_blank > >> href="http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf4/commodore/pet-n-peddle.jpg" target=_blank > >http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf4/commodore/pet-n-peddle.jpg" > > target=_blank > >> href="> href="http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf4/commodore/pet-n-peddle.jpg" target=_blank > >http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf4/commodore/pet-n-peddle.jpg" > target=_blank > >> href="http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf4/commodore/pet-n-peddle.jpg" target=_blank > >http://vintagecomputer.net/vcf4/commodore/pet-n-peddle.jpg Bill -------- > > > Original Message -------- > From: "Jack Rubin" <> > ymailto="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net" > href="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net">jack.rubin@ameritech.net" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net">jack.rubin@ameritech.net">> ymailto="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net" > href="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net">jack.rubin@ameritech.net" > > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:> href="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net">jack.rubin@ameritech.net">> ymailto="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net" > href="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net">jack.rubin@ameritech.net">> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net">jack.rubin@ameritech.net" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net">jack.rubin@ameritech.net">> ymailto="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net" > href="mailto:jack.rubin@ameritech.net">jack.rubin@ameritech.net> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:53 AM > To: > ymailto="mailto:> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de > > > > Subject: Re: VCF PET Alive! - April 24th to May 2nd > > > > Excellent > idea! I'll be there! Maybe Jim M will supply some pix > of > my SuperPET that's > been visiting with him for the last > year or > so. Jack ----- > Original Message > ---- > From: > Anders Carlsson <> ymailto="mailto:> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se">anders.carlsson@sfks.se" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se">anders.carlsson@sfks.se">> ymailto="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se" > href="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se">anders.carlsson@sfks.se" > > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:> href="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se">anders.carlsson@sfks.se">> ymailto="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se" > href="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se">anders.carlsson@sfks.se">> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se">anders.carlsson@sfks.se" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se">anders.carlsson@sfks.se">> ymailto="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se" > href="mailto:anders.carlsson@sfks.se">anders.carlsson@sfks.se> > > > > To: > href="mailto:> href="mailto:> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> > ymailto="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > > href="mailto:> href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">> ymailto="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" > href="mailto:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de">cbm-hackers@musoftware.de > > > > Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 4:36:29 AM > Subject: VCF PET Alive! - > > April > 24th to May 2nd > > Hello, A couple of users > on > the Vintage > Computer Forum have decided to > celebrate > the > Commodore PET by launching > an event called PET > Alive! running > from > April 24th to May 2nd. It > will > include anything from just > arranging your PET to > look nice, > to > running some software or > even perform some > hardware > > breakthroughs. Read more on > this > > link: > href="> href="> href="http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=19926" > target=_blank > >http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=19926" > > target=_blank > >> href="http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=19926" > target=_blank > >http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=19926" > > > target=_blank > >> href="> href="http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=19926" > target=_blank > >http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=19926" > > target=_blank > >> href="http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=19926" > target=_blank > >http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=19926 I > > > > suppose in order to participate you would need to be a member of > > that forum, > but > probably several of us already are. At > this > point we don't know what > the outcome > will > be. Best > regards -- Anders > > Carlsson > Message was sent > through the > cbm-hackers > mailing list > > > Message was > sent through > the cbm-hackers mailing > list > Message was > sent through the > cbm-hackers mailing > list -- This message has been > scanned for > viruses and > dangerous content by IDSi's > MailScanner. > > Message was sent through the > cbm-hackers mailing > > list Message was sent through the > cbm-hackers > mailing list -- This message has been scanned for > viruses and > dangerous content by IDSi's > MailScanner. > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers > mailing list Message was sent through the > cbm-hackers mailing list -- This message has been scanned for viruses > and dangerous content by IDSi's MailScanner. > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list -- This > message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by IDSi's > MailScanner. 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