On 2012-04-19, at 21:43, Spiro Trikaliotis wrote: >>> Yeah. From the other hand, Basic 3.5 and Tedmon usually comes very >>> handy. IMHO the Plus/4 has been way more friendly to beginners than >>> Commodore's other "cheap" machines. >> >> Yes... That still annoys me... The C64 had all the great >> capabilities but no BASIC support for it, not even a monitor >> (something like TIM from the CBM series would have been enough for >> me) while the 264 series had the great BASIC 3.5 but lacked the >> sound and video capabilities. > > In fact, I always considered this to be an advantage of the C64. > > Why? Everyone trying to do sound and/or video was forced to learn about > peek, poke, and the like. From there, it was not very far to learn > assembly. > > With many other machines with their fancy BASIC, people got stuck with > the BASIC. Thus, they never considered really learning about the inner > parts of their machine. I second that with one exception. A built-in ML monitor definitely wouldn't hurt. Sure, once I started plugging in my carts I had all I needed but before that it was a PITA. I recall I bought a German publication and typed in the first decent monitor. It was a hell of a job to find all the errors I made while typing in... -- SD! Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing listReceived on 2012-04-19 23:00:19
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