Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PetDisk (was Re: Re: 1541 to 2031 adapter (was no subject))

From: hwarin_at_neuf.fr
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 23:20:39 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <6886333.561522.1384467639484.JavaMail.www@wsfrf1212>
Giovi,

Went to your site and found quite a lot of interesting return of experience in PET repair "for the dimmies in electronics" (as I am). I hope that it won't take me 12 years to have it fixed (as other boxes are waiting) but it's on it's way as it stayed about one year and half before I found time to re-open the box....

[for fireworks specialists, the more suitable component I've found to replace the original one was http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/18347.pdf ... I don't like the idea to replace "something" by "nothing"]

About my experience with bitfixer's sales department, I don't think that anyone had a direct phone call, I was just patient (euh 6 months ?), put 2 (identical) orders, and it finally arrived.

I've not been able to find "PetTester" from your site but found another incarnation there : http://www.8bit-homecomputermuseum.at/repair/bluepet/bluepet.html Is this the same ?

Regards - Hervé

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Message du : 14/11/2013 17:36
De : "Giovi " <stravaccato68@yahoo.it>
A : cbm-hackers@musoftware.de
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My 8032 also had the same problem (explosion of the line filter); simply throw it in the trash can and forget it, everything works fine without such pyrotechnical components :-)
 
 
 
Ok you didn't scan it before to solder, I understand, just know I will hate you forever ;-)    [just kidding]
 
However the problem about not having schematics and pcb scans and depending on Mike "gubbish" for purchasing, is that he seems to be quite busy; only Mike's ("MikeS") phone calls seem to have some effect on his attenction to the "sale department". I received it probably just because MikeS was so kind to call and to tell him that an annoying italian/brazilian (me) was waiting for the petdisk and he was boring the whole VCF for that ;-)
 
 
 
I have no experience about petvet (well, I have no experience about electronics!) but you should be able to program its ROM with the CRTC version of the pettester (see VCF or get it here: http://www.verrua.org/pet_repair/petester_8032.zip ). It must to be put at the kernel address (you can also use a 2732 eprom in the kernel socket). It's a dirty diagnostic, but at least should help you a little.
 
 
 
--Giovi
 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: hwarin@neuf.fr 

To: cbm-hackers@musoftware.de 

Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:13 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: PetDisk (was Re: Re: 1541 to 2031 adapter (was no subject))




 

I've finally received my PetDisk & PetVet last week .... Many thanks to Mike if he reads this !

 

What to say ... This are very nice "artisanal" products, I still did not tested PetDisk yet (bought soldered, sorry Giovi, I bought it soldered & tested mostly because it was not so much more expansive and this Safed me a lot of work). I've tested PetVet yesterday and it resurected immediately my 8096 (*). Now, I have to diagnose more deeply to fugure out what's going wrong (RAM or ROM). Another comment would be to say that PetVet documentation and firmware are y very minimal (a more sophisticated "monitor" would have been a great idea, also, even "screen dump" functions only on left part of the screen, as if it was a 40Cols screen !).

(*) Initial failure on this 8096 is unknown - readable characters on screen, beep, but basic won't come up. I've stopped working on this piece of hardware since 1 year or so, when power line filter smoked and exploded !

Anyway, I agree that schematics & PCB scans could be very instructive (but at Mike prices, I don't think that it's interesting to try to duplicate it, since he still provides new units).

 

 

Regards - Hervé



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Message du : 01/11/2013 16:25
De : "Giovi " <stravaccato68@yahoo.it>
A : cbm-hackers@musoftware.de
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When you will receive the petdisk, can you gently scan the PCB before starting soldering and share it? This way we have an easy way to make the petdisk at home (since the firmware is freely released)....

 

cheers,

Giovi


----- Original Message ----- 

From:hwarin@neuf.fr

To:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de 

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:16 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Re: PetDisk (was Re: Re: 1541 to 2031 adapter (was no subject))




Hi,

 

I finally had a mail requesting a payment on Paypal in the start of october. I read this mail the 13/10 and sent my payment the 14/10. No news since then; hoping it's on it's way.

 

Regards - Hervé

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Message du : 21/09/2013 17:38
De : "Giovi " <stravaccato68@yahoo.it>
A : cbm-hackers@musoftware.de
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True! Mike, I forgot to mention that part but you're right, probably your phone call was the most effective move :-)


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From:MikeS

To:cbm-hackers@musoftware.de

Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:56 PM

Subject: Re: Re: PetDisk (was Re: Re: 1541 to 2031 adapter (was no subject))




If you don't get an answer I can phone him; that worked the last time people were looking for him on VCF.

 

MikeS


----- Original Message ----- 

From:hwarin@neuf.fr

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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:25 PM

Subject: Re: Re: PetDisk (was Re: Re: 1541 to 2031 adapter (was no subject))




Thanks, Giovi - That's good news, even it he ...... "get married" !

 

I will post him something in few days.

 

Regards - Hervé

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Message du : 20/09/2013 02:23
De : "Giovi " <stravaccato68@yahoo.it>
A : cbm-hackers@musoftware.de
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Hi Hervé,

I received my petdisk few weeks ago, but I had to stress a little Mike aka 
bitfixer.com aka Gubbish from http://www.vintage-computer.com and then he 
answered at this thread: 
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?38209-Use-a-PC-to-emulate-floppy-disk-for-PET/page2 
telling us he had a lot of problems in the past months, I mean serious 
problems: he married :-D
I must to check if I still have his email since I didn't bookmark his 
address, but try to contact him by vintage-computer.com forum, and if he 
doesn't answer, write me a line and I will try to find his email address for 
you.

Giovi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: hwarin@neuf.fr
To: cbm-hackers@musoftware.de
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:42 PM
Subject: PetDisk (was Re: Re: 1541 to 2031 adapter (was no subject))


Hi, friends

As Giovi is talking about the Petdisk (from bitfixer.com), I am wondering if 
someone had (recent ?) news from the author of this interesting hardware or 
possibly could forward me his "live" mail.

I'm trying to order one since a big while now without success ... the only 
answer that I had once was that he had trouble to get some parts ...

Regards - Hervé




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Message du : 19/09/2013 22:25
De : "Steve Gray " 
A : "cbm-hackers@musoftware.de" 
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Hi,


I have not done this mod but I'm wondering which version of 1541 did you 
use? Is it possible that the "patched" rom is for a different rom pair? I 
can't see any reference to which is the correct part# for the ROM that 
doesn't require changing. Did you use the ROM from the MASHUP site or did 
you run the patch routine on your existing ROM?


Steve




From: Giovi 
To: cbm-hackers@musoftware.de
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:42:38 PM
Subject:


Hi folks!

my name is Giovi (Giovanni Verrua), italian, C= collector, I live in Brazil
and I'm new to this list.
As Ruud Baltissen (that should receive this post, if I'm right...hi Ruud!)
already discovered, I'm not an hardware expert; dummy should be most the
correct word :) so I apologize if my further posts will be silly in some
way. I also apologize if I will do some mistakes posting to this mailing
list. Don't be shy, correct me whenever is needed!

My first question to this list is about the 1541 drive modified for the
IEEE-488 interface (in other words, about connecting a 1541 to a PET), this
one:
http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/documents/projects/ieee-488/index.html
also described at this page:
http://vintagemashups.net/2010/12/commodore-1541-ieee-488-conversion/,where
I downloaded the patched ROM.

I'm writing this post because, of course, mine doesn't work :) - I checked
it twice and I haven't found (yet) the mistake. I will check it again. No
answer from the 1541 and no reset when the 8032-sk is switched on or off.

I'm sure that:
- the 1541 drive is ok
- the 6522 is ok
- the socket adapter is ok
- the EPROM im programmed returns no difference if compared with the patched
rom image (so I believe it's ok too)
- the ieee cable an connectors are ok
- the ieee-488 port of the 8032 is ok since it works fine with the Petdisk
(from bitfixer.com).


>>> The question for you: >>> I have a little doubt about the patched ROM:
>>> it's showing a different behavior respect the original 901229-05 ROM.

- with the original ROM, as usual, the floppy starts to spin and the red
light comes on; after few seconds, the light and the spin motor go off in
the same moment. Normal behavior for this kind of drive.

- with the patched ROM (with or without the ieee interface) the floppy just
spins for a while and then stops, while the red light stays on for a longer
time (and then goes off).

Anybody of you C=hackers made this adapter in the past, and can tell me at
least if the patched ROM shows this different behavior?

cheers,
Giovi



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