Re: MAX Machine PLA

From: Segher Boessenkool <segher_at_kernel.crashing.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 15:56:12 -0500
Message-ID: <20160807205612.GE26795@gate.crashing.org>
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 09:44:04PM +0200, Gerrit Heitsch wrote:
> >http://segher.ircgeeks.net/vic-ii/8565-blocks.jpg
> >
> >(that is 8565, not *entirely* the same as 6567/6569, but I labeled the
> >blocks here).
> >
> >This is 6569 (R3):
> >
> >http://retronn.de/imports/cbm_chips/vic2_overview_gray4.jpg
> >
> >and this is R1 (warning, huge):
> >
> >http://mail.lipsia.de/~enigma/vic2r1/fullvic_lowquality.jpg
> >
> >(not much has changed in R3).
> 
> Likely some timing issues.

Well, obviously the digital video signals were pinned out, like on the
8565 (see the octagonal pads at the right).  This is for testing only
I think, the drivers for those pads are very weak.

> >	6566	6567
> >17	phi0	phi0
> >18	phiin	#RAS
> >19	phicol	#CAS
> >20	Vss	Vss
> >21	A0	phicol
> >22	A1	phiin
> >23	A2	A11
> >24	A3	A0/A7/A8
> >25	A4	A1/A8/A9
> >26	A5	A2/A9/A10
> >27	A6	A3/A10/A11
> >28	A7	A4/A11/A12
> >29	A8	A5/A12/A13
> >30	A9	A6/A13/1
> >31	A10	A7
> >32	A11	A8
> >33	A12	A9
> >34	A13	A10
> 
> Hm? What do you mean with the 3 Adress lines on a single pin of the 
> 6567? The schematics of the C64 only show 2 per adress line.

row address / column address for 7-bit ram addressing / column address for
8-bit ram addressing.  It is a metal mask option on the VIC chip.

As you see the 7-bit is much neater.

> >Btw, the RAS/CAS things are self-timed, using analogue delays, long
> >inverter chains etc.
> 
> There should be differences between R1 and R3 in this area since R1 
> wants a 82pF Capacitor between CAS and GND while it's not needed for R3.

Interesting!


Segher

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