Interesting, someone said it was joystick port but user port is good too :-) There definitely was a joystick port sampler for the c64. Yes please for pictures. On 12/10/2016 16:01, Steve Gray wrote: > Sorry for jumping in late. I own an original Covox Voice Master like this: > http://www.commodorespain.es/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Voice-Master.jpg > > It connects to the user port. I have it open right now. There are two chips: ADC0804LCN and LM324N. So obviously an analog to digital converter and amplifier. The other components are normal resistors, capacitors, diodes and transistors. The pcb is single-sided. It looks like I hacked it long ago for some reason. The user port connector was removed, some traces cut, and wires added. I'm guessing I must have tried modifying it for use on the Amiga. Anyway, if anyone is interested in pics let me know. > Steve > > From: Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> > To: cbm-hackers@musoftware.de > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:29 AM > Subject: Re: Covox Voice Master > > On 10/12/2016 03:54 AM, Terry Raymond wrote: >> Hi Gerrit, >> >> Are you referring to the actual data pins that solder in or are socketed. >> the transistor is way small though? > I'm talking about the structure on the die shot I supplied. > > If you put pinout of SID and die shot side by side, you can easily tell > which pads are what. > > >> I was looking at the larger 3 squares at the bottom, wow . > The squares are the pads where the bonding wires are connected. The > drivers on the pads of the data lines are the large comb like structures > next to them. The ADC pads have something similiar, but MUCH smaller. > > > >> Is the SID wafer about the size of a match head about, just amazing so much >> could fit on a small wafer, SID on Steroids :) > The die is about 4 x 4 mm if I remember right. > > Gerrit > > > > > >> Terry Raymond >> >> On Tuesday, October 11, 2016, Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de >> <mailto:gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de>> wrote: >> >> On 10/11/2016 06:10 PM, Jim Brain wrote: >> >> >> The SID POT ADC circuitry needs to drag the line hard to ground >> for 256 >> cycles. NMOS would easily handle this, but it must be a pretty >> hefty >> transistor to ensure it can overcome the current coming from the >> paddle >> resistor. I don't see such a transistor on the 6581 die shots, >> but it >> must be there. What should I look for? >> >> >> When looking at >> >> http://mail.lipsia.de/~enigma/mos6581r4/full_q30.jpg >> <http://mail.lipsia.de/~enigma/mos6581r4/full_q30.jpg> >> >> the paddle inputs should be the 2nd and 3rd pad from the bottom on >> the left side of the die. Between them is a mirrored structure which >> should be the measuring circuit. >> >> Close to each pad, I can see something that looks like a transistor >> that connects the pad to the GND line. But it's a lot smaller than >> the drivers for the data pins. >> >> The paddle resistors are 500K max, but I don't know what their >> minimum value is. The schematics suggest that it's zero, but that >> would be more than any NMOS driver can handle... >> >> Gerrit >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list >> > > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list > > > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing listReceived on 2016-10-12 18:01:39
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