Re: Is it at all possible?

From: Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:34:25 +0100
Message-ID: <CAFqpYu6sfvFZsarfRtbL4SXkB58w8=Pku=KTK5g0btKQEXBFzA@mail.gmail.com>
double checking stuff and for the resistors i found these odd's:

Ruud's schematic lists R5 as 1.5 Kohm but the BOM in the service manual
says 560 ohm
R8  is a 1Kohm but BOM says 390 Ohm
R10 is a 100 ohm but on BOM its a 120 ohm
R31 is a 1Kohm but BOM says 180 ohm
R37 is a 47Kohm but on BOM its 2,7Kohm

R46 is on BOM but not on Ruud's schematic
The following is on Ruud's schematic but not on BOM: R42, R36, R50, R48, R49

will go on and recheck capacitors

2017-02-14 20:58 GMT+01:00 Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen@gmail.com>:

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>    - there are a few BOM's in the service manual at zimmers, i used the
>    first one but maybe that is not the right one?
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> I can answer this one myself... the schematic has only the 5 pin video so
> its the first one board in the service manual. PCB 326298-01 Schematic
> 326106
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> 2017-02-14 20:35 GMT+01:00 Bo Herrmannsen <bo.herrmannsen@gmail.com>:
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>> a bit back to the org subject
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>> BOM: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gl0Q71u6fKLPRA9HQiSG
>> 8-xY8tPweMwXuy_UGQ1Iayo/edit?usp=sharing
>> Schematic: http://www.baltissen.org/images/c64.png
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>> Best photo of a board so far: http://myoldcomputer.nl/w
>> p-content/uploads/2015/11/board-326298.jpg
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>> I have got most of the discrete stuff sourced, thou i have a few
>> capcacitors i could not figure
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>> Q's:
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>>    - is mica and ceramic the same thing? i ask because i could not find
>>    a few of the ceramics but could find them as mica's
>>    - C106 is not on the BOM on page 22 in this PDF:
>>    http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/schematics/compu
>>    ters/c64/servicemanuals/C64_Service_Manual_314001-02_(1985_Feb)%20.pdf
>>    <http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/schematics/computers/c64/servicemanuals/C64_Service_Manual_314001-02_(1985_Feb)%20.pdf>
>>       - but on the scematic on page 26 it is marked as 150pf but with a
>>       dashed box arround it. I looked at the board i just linked and could not
>>       find it anywhere. But can i assume that its just a ceramic?
>>    - The socket for the expansion port is also a no go so far, anyone
>>    know a shop that has them regular?
>>    - L4 is listed as a line filter of some sorts, but could not find any
>>    more info so far, anyone knows more about it?
>>    - RP4 anyone know what kind it is? BOM at the zimmers link says 10
>>    pin so can it be assumed that its 5 individual resistors?
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>> Things noted on the schematic from Ruud
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>>    - Only one of the resistors in RP4 is connected on both sides, do i
>>    miss something here?
>>    - Same for RP3
>>    - there are a few BOM's in the service manual at zimmers, i used the
>>    first one but maybe that is not the right one?
>>
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>> Will do the chips tomorrow, rest of evening will be spent double checking
>> and look a bit more in the service manual
>>
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>> 2017-02-14 8:29 GMT+01:00 Julian Perry <jp@digitaltapestries.com>:
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>>> Hello GJPAA,
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>>> Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 6:01:26 PM, you wrote:
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>>> *> Hallo Bo, >> First of all i wonder what board rev matches this
>>> schematic? > I have no idea. The source is the schematic in the well known
>>> Programmers Reference Guide. *As Hans has mentioned,  it looks very,
>>> very close to Rev 250407. Nothing was ever absolute with Commodore boards,
>>> but I think that's as close as you'll get. Commodore were always tinkering
>>> with the analog video and audio (particularly early on) so there may be
>>> some differences there.
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>>> *>> and if there are a high res scan "out there" i could use for initial
>>> component placement > Write me in private and I will generate a PNG with an
>>> higher > resolution. Or you can have the original files. Eagle can be >
>>> downloaded and you can create your PNG. And you can tinker with the SCH
>>> yourself. >> Next would part are ABSOLUTE not to be found no where? > These
>>> parts aren't that rare. Just ask around. >> and board layout > Hasn't that
>>> be done already? Several people have asked for the SCH before. *There
>>> was the C64 reloaded a short while back ( http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/C64_
>>> reloaded ). Aside from cleaner video output I didn't quite see the
>>> point: but it's always nice to see the C64 candle burning bright !!
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>>> *> Hmmm, next thought: what about using the ATX format? >> Next, how
>>> much use would the work be in general? > Depends on your skills and
>>> experience. > Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards, > Ruud Baltissen *>
>>> www.Baltissen.org <http://www.Baltissen.org>
>>> <jp@digitaltapestries.com>
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