On 1/30/20 3:06 PM, Mia Magnusson wrote: > Den Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:30:59 +0100 skrev Gerrit Heitsch > <gerrit_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de>: >> On 1/29/20 6:50 PM, smf wrote: >>> On 29/01/2020 17:28, Gerrit Heitsch wrote: >>> >>>> For the beginning of the 80s, it wasn't bad either. >>>> >>> Compared to what? >>> >>> Up against the ZX80 it was able to maintain a video display while >>> running basic, but with only 22 columns compared to the ZX80's 32 >>> columns. >> >> But in color while the ZX81 was b/w. So you got colors AND an image >> while running a program. > > And three square wave channels and a noise channel. > >> Compared to the Atari 400/800 and arguably the Apple 2, the vic >>> 20 was terrible. >> >> The Apple II had strange color limitations though. > > Yeah, the Apple II could afaik do six colors that also did look a bit > odd, and only in hires, not in text mode, as it didn't have redefinable > characters. Also the hires mode can't had been that usable in the early > days as it would consume most of the RAM you had. > > Compare that with VIC 20 that did 8/16 colors. > > And afaik couldn't produce any decent sound while doing much else. > >>> The only thing really going for it was that at least it wasn't the >>> TED series, which had 40 column text but no sprites and not enough >>> cpu power to do them in software. >> >> The VIC had no sprites either, those came with VIC-II. You could say >> that TED was an improved VIC, 40 x 25 text, full 64K access, more >> colors, soft scrolling, hardware reverse and blink. Plus sound. > > Minus overscan :) TED can do overscan and interlace if you know how to handle the writable horizontal and vertical counters. I have seen some demos doing that. GerritReceived on 2020-05-30 00:37:38
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