Re: OT: UM6502A can it be different in any way?

From: Francesco Messineo <francesco.messineo_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 14:43:35 +0200
Message-ID: <CAESs-_wBh8+Vsjo0XAZ13qPcQ6JXjMUHz-X3cRCJdt6u76rAtg_at_mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 2:00 PM Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de>
wrote:

>
> >
> > I've put the UM6502A and the suspect UM (chinese sanded and rebadged
> > chip) on other Asteroids board and the "problem" follows these two CPU.
> > R/W and phi2 signals just go directly to a 74LS244 input, so the CPU
> > doesn't need to provide fanout for all the inputs.
> > My board Vcc is 4.9V at the 6502 pins, so it shouldn't be an issue.
> > With the oscilloscope I've seen the rising edge of phi2 is taking a bit
> > more than 10nS. The UM6502 have the slowest rising edge of all CPUs I
> could
> > test. Of course the 65C02 has a nearly vertical rising edge (and works
> > fine on Asteroids anyway).
> > MOS/SY/R 6502 have a better phi2 rising edge than the UM, but the
> > differences are marginal, maybe 2-5ns as far as my scope can tell. Also
> > the "1" level
> > on the MOS/SY/R are around 4.5V, while the UM goes to 4V (which
> > shouldn't matter on TTL logic anyway).
>
> Have you tried to add a 3.3kohm or 4.7kohm pullup to PHI2 and maybe R/W
> on the UM6502A? That would make the signal rise faster and get you a
> higher HIGH.
>
> this is a very good suggestion! I'll try this "soon enough" when I finish
repairing a few PETs
that have been sent to me and they are now occupying the bench.
I'll report the results.

Frank IZ8DWF
Received on 2021-09-12 15:02:38

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