Re: C64 French version (narrow board)

> On 2022-08-22, at 15:27, Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit_at_laosinh.s.bawue.de> wrote:
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> On 8/22/22 16:20, ruud_at_baltissen.org wrote:
>> Hallo Patryk,
>>> It weren't only the French who had this problem ;-)
>> I completely forgot, Poland had SECAM as well! Brings back memories like buying a CCCP 4 inch B/W television for peanuts, only to find at home I had forgotten about the SECAM. Sold it to a guy for a nice price, offered, not asked, who had a French C64.
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> I thought when it comes to black&white SECAM and PAL were compatible?

Yes. If it was b/w then there shouldn't be any problems. The standard was based on the same CCIR norm. CCCP had also very nice for the day, very small colour TVs. When they worked, they had very pleasant colours:

http://rw6ase.narod.ru/00/twc/elektronika_c430.html

Those were obviously SECAM only.

>> Another memory, in 1992 a shop sold C64s for 1,000,000 Złotich, about $45. I was tempted to buy one until my girlfriend, now wife, remembered me about the SECAM signal.
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> Yes, but there is no SECAM VIC, so you would have been able to convert it back to PAL easily.

I've seen literally hundreds (if not four figure number) of C64 boards during the times I repaired them for a living. And – as shown by this thread – I was still caught off guard in terms of SECAM add-on board. No, I have never seen a C64 with SECAM output and I'd bet the one Ruud was tempted to buy was just a regular PAL unit.