Re: weird cables question

From: Spiro Trikaliotis (trik-news_at_gmx.de)
Date: 2004-01-16 07:46:59

Hello again,

On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 04:24:40PM +0100, Groepaz wrote:
> On Thursday 15 January 2004 15:21, Spiro Trikaliotis wrote:

> seriously, software handshake is no option these days. it just plainly
> sux, you dont want it. never.

Tell it the people who force me to use it. ;-)

BTW: The Windows kernel debugger works this way, even with 115200 bps,
and it is really reliable.

 
> yes, but the diodes will avoid that (they are a "one way" for current)

Yes, I know. Although I am not an electrician, I have a basic
understanding of electronics, having started with this before I got into
the "computer business" (does anyone here in germany remember these
"Kosmos Elektronik" parts? ;-))

> ever seen one of these cheap centronics interfaces for c64 that have a
> lot of diodes at the userport connector? guess what they are good for :)

No, I've never seen one of these. But *now* I know why the IEC port of
the C64 had a diode - mine did not, and this was really fun whenever the
floppy was not powered and you powered the monitor on or off, or someone
was powering a light bulb in the near... :-(

 
> 1) you are ***not*** supposed to connect protective and signal ground, this
> is a violation of the rs232 standard

I know, and the people who did it there knew it, too. Anyway, it
happened nonetheless.

> 2) you are ***not*** supposed to connect protective ground on both ends of
> the rs232 cable, thats again a violation of the standard. (this is what
> makes those high unwanted currents possible)

Same as above.

 
> solution: use ethernet damnit :=P

No problem, this is what I'm using currently (no, not for my C64).

 
> oh btw that page has a slight mistake....according to VDE *any* kind of 
> "new" installation [...]

Yes, I know.

Spiro.

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