From: David Wood (jbevren_at_starbase.globalpc.net)
Date: 2005-06-16 00:35:52
Be wary of LCD units. I got one for my pal c64, and it refuses to work. C64's dont send an odd/even field when sending video, so my LCD tv wont display it at all, neither the ntsc nor pal one. The DTV suffers the same problem. make sure you can take it back beofre you take it home :) -jbev On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 r.lagendijk@hccnet.nl wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you all for the responce, I'm thinking about buying a video to VGA box that can handle the PAL-N. I hope I can find one that also does NTSC and NTSC-J for my other C64's. Or maybe a nice flatscreen tv that does all these formats > > Greetings Richard > > > > > > wELL...let me tell you my experience.. i happen to live in one of the 2 > > countries in the whole world (i guessÇ), that use PAL-N > > > > And when i buy a computer from europe, which i think is PAL B. for > > example, from Germany, i can only see it in black & white...no colour at > > all.. I use a transcoder pal-n-pal-whatever to be able to watch in full > > colours everything... > > > > Somebody told me that PAL-N is like a cheap version of original PAL... > > Why my country adopted such a decision...well...yo have to go back to the > > World Cup ´78....and ask technicians here and from Telefunken (the company > > who brought PAL to Argentina specially for tv for the World Cup....) But > > thats another story... > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > Regards > > > > > > Sebastian > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Leo" <commodore128@hotmail.com> > > To: <cbm-hackers@ling.gu.se> > > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:48 PM > > Subject: Re: PAL-N > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Arndt Övermann" <arndt.oevermann@freenet.de> > >> To: <cbm-hackers@ling.gu.se> > >> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:04 PM > >> Subject: Re: PAL-N > >> > >> > >> > >>> Am Montag, 13. Juni 2005 18:46 schrieb r.lagendijk@hccnet.nl: > >>> Salve Richard, > >>> > >>> > >>>> I have a C64c with a 6572R1 as a VIC-II. I plugged it into a 1084 > >>>> but only got a black and white picture. After googling I found out > >>>> that the > > 6572R1 > > > >>>> is PAL-N. Is there a trick to get a color picture on a standard PAL > >>>> monitor? Or do I have to get a PAL-N compatible monitor or TV. > >>> > >>> PAL-N uses a colour carrier with 3.58 MHz. This PAL-Version is used > >>> in South-America (e. g. Argentina) with the broadcast standard CCIR N. > >>> VHS-Tapes, they are recorded with a PAL-N VHS-Recorder can be play > >>> back > > in > >>> a PAL (Europe, Asia, Australia, New-Zealand) VHS-Recorder and vice > >>> versa > > in > >>> colour. This C64, which you own, can only used Monitor or a TV-Set > >>> with PAL-N standard. > >> > >> > >> Not completely true. You can buy a video capture card such as the ati > >> > > "all > > > >> in wonder" that you install into your modern pc and it will handle pal > >> ( > >> many different types too) ,secam, and ntsc. I hook up my pal vic-20 and > > c128 > >> to the video inputs and I get an excellent color picture on my 19 inch > > svga > >> monitor. Finally got to play Toki, over here in canada, on my C128! > >> > >> > >> Leo > >> > >> > >> Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list > > > > > > > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list
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