My experience repairing Commodores has shown that static (lightening and your fingers after a walk on the winter-time carpet) is the most destructive to chips inside. Most susceptible is the PLA in 64s rev A to rev D motherboards (about half of the light color flatter 64s are rev D) In Rev E the ram is most susceptible. In both the 6526/8521 CIAs and 6581/8580 SIDs are static sensitive and not isolated from the outside ports (user, joystick, video/audio, tape, expansion). MOS used plastic packaging on most of its chips in the 64s except 656x video chips which are almost all ceramic and less susceptable to packaging failures. Power supply failures usually wiped out RAM in a zig-zag pattern that is every other one in the row and each row offset by one. The TED is alas very susceptible to damage from power flux or static and so C16 and +/4 in good working order are more scarce. 1571s used a leaf spring suspension for the upper read/write head that will tear and thus not put proper tension on the disk to read. Especially this happened when the drives were left open (spring up) no disk in the drive! --Ray > >Perhaps we could gather together some informal data on the relative >>popularity of the well known CBM types. > >Hi Guys, (this is a reply to a question on the old list) >Most of my computers have been collected from the recycling centre, so >perhaps not the best place to find working samples :) but believe me, the >statistics below are based on a sample large enough to be too embarassing to >admit to! > >58% of my C64 machines are the brown bread box >67% of the brown boxes work, 78% of the beige case models >all of the SX models work - only have three though :) >86% of the C128 machines work, though 25% I've repaired (bad RAM) >90% of the C128D machines work >43% of the VIC20 machines work (50% of the original PAL) >16% of my C16/Plus4 machines (thanks to Ruud! for the CPU) > >Compared to my non-CBM machines, the Commodores seem to be very poor when it >comes to longevity. Most I assume are RAM failures due to dickie power >supply regulation.... > >Disk drives fair better with most types having a working status of better >than 90%, except for alignment, the next biggest problem is ROM failure. > >I hope the above is not too trivial, but would be interested to know if the >above is typical. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- |Raymond C. Bryan 651-642-9890 vox | The battle is sometimes | |Raymond Computer 651-642-9891 fax | to the small for | |795 Raymond Ave -email: raycomp | the bigger they are | |St Paul MN 55114 @visi.com | the harder they fall. | |USA Amiga - Commodore | -- James Thurber -- | --------------------------------------------------------------- Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list
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