Re: 6502 to 7501/8501 converter

From: Jim Brain <brain_at_jbrain.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2018 13:00:04 -0500
Message-ID: <6b4f9398-99ce-48c5-3aef-b5d8c6cf1e32@jbrain.com>
On 6/18/2018 9:54 AM, Gerrit Heitsch wrote:
> On 06/18/2018 10:04 AM, Jim Brain wrote:
>> Is there a document that explains the purpose of MUX/GATE_IN?  Why 
>> did the 264 series need to latch the R/W line and why did they need 
>> to do it in the CPU in such an inefficient way?
>
> The reason, as I understand it, is to make sure that R/W stays LOW 
> long enough during a write cycle. Remember, the 264 does switch the 
> CPU to double clock if TED doesn't need the bus. AEC is HIGH all the 
> time during that period. This means that all signals from the 7501 are 
> suddenly active only half as long.
>
> Most RAMs don't seem to care since people have reportedly used 6510 in 
> an adapter with R/W connected directly without issues.
>
> Maybe Bil can shed some light on it? Assuming he reads this...
>
> I have captured write cycles on the logic analyzer. R/W depends on MUX 
> and can only change state with the rising edge of MUX. Mail me if you 
> want the images.
>
>  Gerrit
>
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I do want them, but it would be best, I think, if you could host them 
somewhere for all of us.  I am sure I cannot be the only person stymied 
by this signal and it's purpose.

Your statement about R/W can only change as MUX rise seems different 
from the HDL and guidance previously given.  How do we verify this?

Jim


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Received on 2018-06-18 21:00:04

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