From: Baltissen, R (Ruud) (ruud.baltissen_at_abp.nl)
Date: 2003-01-30 09:40:05
Hallo Jurgen, > Where the word Dutch comes from. From the same origin as the word "Deutsch". German and Dutsch originates from one common language: Diets. And this is because around 400 AD there was this mass moving of people and most of the Netherlands got occupied by German tribes. This is one of the reasons why the top of the Netherlands was occupied by the Frisians. Some were fast and ended up in the province of Holland, others were slow and got stuck in Germany, the now famous "Ost-Friesen" :). But the language evolved and in the middle ages Dutch/Niederlaendisch/Nederlands was refered to as "neder-Diets". "Neder" means "low", so that's why we are refered to as "the low countries". In French: "les Pays Bas". I first thought that "nether" was the English pronounciations of "neder" but my English dictionary proved that it is a normal English word. But I must say that I never have seen it in other combinations than as in "Netherlands". But in time the Dutch didn't refer to there language as "Diets" but rather prefered "Nederlands" or, more wellknown, "Hollands". FYI: Holland is only a province of the Netherlands (or better, two). But it was the most wellknown one in the 16th and 17th century and therefor became the synonym for the whole country. Up-river the language was refered to as "hoog-Diets" or Upper-Diets. So the word Diets became Dutch in Englisch and Deutsch in German. I'm quite sure the English used the Word "Dutch" already in the 16th century. But AFAIK they refered to the Germans as so only after the unification in 1871. Before they refered to the various kingdoms that existed at that time like Bavaria, Habsburg and Saxon. Most probably known but for sure: the word "German" originates from Latin as the Romans named this part of Europe "Germania". With "this part" I mean nowadays Germany and the part of the Nethetlands above the Rhine and Maas/Meuse. -- ___ / __|__ / / |_/ Groetjes, Ruud \ \__|_\ \___| http://Ruud.C64.org =====DISCLAIMER================================================================= De informatie in dit e-mailbericht is vertrouwelijk en uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Wanneer u dit bericht per abuis ontvangt, verzoeken wij u contact op te nemen met de afzender per kerende e-mail. Verder verzoeken wij u in dat geval dit e-mailbericht te vernietigen en de inhoud ervan aan niemand openbaar te maken. Wij aanvaarden geen aansprakelijkheid voor onjuiste, onvolledige dan wel ontijdige overbrenging van de inhoud van een verzonden e-mailbericht, noch voor daarbij overgebrachte virussen. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please contact the sender immediately by return e-mail; please delete in this case the e-mail and do not disclose its contents to any person. We don't accept liability for any errors, omissions, delays of receipt or viruses in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list
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