Hi all, maybe this has been discussed before, but I really can't get all informations together. We all know the 7501 is a crippled 6510 (I say crippled because they needed to get rid of either NMI or PHI2 pins to have this gate-in signal fit in the 40 PIN dip package, while adding also an additional port bit I/O, which is fine). Now, reading the 264 timing and documentation (it's on zimmers), it appears that gate_in is a latch enable for the R/W signal, meaning R/W will be held in its previous state when gate is low. This gate_in input is driven by MUX output from the TED chip. Basically MUX is a signal for driving the DRAM address multiplexers, it's high in the / RAS address phase to the DRAMs and low in the /CAS address phase. So by gating R/W with MUX, they prevented it to change during the later phase of a CPU Cycle. Now my questions: 1) why on earth would R/W change halfway a CPU cycle (phi2 high), that can't happen as far as I know on a 6502/6510 system 2) How can a 6510 (that doesn't have any gate_in input) work apparently fine as a 7501 replacement (there're people doing that, it's documented). 3) Why on a C64 there was no need for this R/W latch? What main difference exist between a C64 DRAM access and a C16 DRAM access (that I don't get)? 4) Why they didn't simply latch the R/W signal externally if absolutely needed and just re-use a 6510 die with an additional port pin bonded out and just leave out only one of PHI2 or NMI)? Ok I guess only a few people in the world could answer to 4), but how about the other? What am I missing? Thanks in advance Frank IZ8DWFReceived on 2020-08-30 16:00:02
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